The football thing has always been around, yet when we were at Bethel Dan Sydlik coached the young brothers when they played.
It all depends on who has more power.
LITS
i remember once in berlin south germany there was a local needs part for the men only, and how they should use the toilet.
in all seriousness for ten minutes a retarded nigerian was going on about how men need to sit down when using the toilet.
no mention of anything else.. it transpired that some little kraut boy from an "interested" family would aim for the side of the toilet and leave a great big puddle for others to clean up.
The football thing has always been around, yet when we were at Bethel Dan Sydlik coached the young brothers when they played.
It all depends on who has more power.
LITS
she was a fine sister with a history that went back six generations with jehovahs witnesses.
her family boasted well over 1000 jw family members, many of which had high station within the organization.
this proud heritage was marred by another fact in the familys history this sister had not disclosed.
Also reading stories like this makes me more determined than ever to never stop speaking out, no matter how much onea like Landy and ones like him swear at, belittle, and put me down. I will never stop.
Evil prevails when people do nothing.
LITS
she was a fine sister with a history that went back six generations with jehovahs witnesses.
her family boasted well over 1000 jw family members, many of which had high station within the organization.
this proud heritage was marred by another fact in the familys history this sister had not disclosed.
Tanks for bring this post forward again. It is what I have bern trying to say. Very timely with what has been going on with threads recently. I am so sorry for your sister. This has got to stop. To many children are being hurt, it's not a topic for debate.
LITS
http://www.nbcrightnow.com/story/34294746/brenda-thornlow-author-of-my-shortlived-life-at-being-perfect-named.
brenda thornlow, author of 'my short-lived life at being perfect', named as winner in '50 great writers you should be reading' book awards.
posted: jan 19, 2017 2:29 am cst .
Thannls Barbara, this looks like a very great read. It might be good for me to take a break.
LITS
there's a lot of criticism surrounding the jw's handling of chiild abuse within their ranks with a lot of it being well deserved.
but i'm interested to know how people on here think child abuse allegations should be handled.
there's a few scenarios below, the first couple are easy then it gets a bit more complex.
Also just because you say you are not a WT attorney means nothing.
I was at Bethel and had the unfortunate ecpreance of being around a WT attorney, he was rude offensive and argumentative. At the time it really bothered me as I was a true believer and could not grasp how such a rude person was allowed in Bethel even with the fact he was being used.
Now I get it. Spiritual warfare, he could look you right in the eye and lie. You and Landy come off just like that attorney.
So just because you say you are not there means nothing.
LITS
there's a lot of criticism surrounding the jw's handling of chiild abuse within their ranks with a lot of it being well deserved.
but i'm interested to know how people on here think child abuse allegations should be handled.
there's a few scenarios below, the first couple are easy then it gets a bit more complex.
RO this is the one and only time I will stoop to lower myself to respond to you.
Yes I have read everything that you have referred to.
You are very biased and externally pro WT. Nothing that I or anyone will, say will ever convince that your beloved WT is in anyway wrong even if it is black and white right in front of you.. It does no good to argue with a brick.
LITS
there's a lot of criticism surrounding the jw's handling of chiild abuse within their ranks with a lot of it being well deserved.
but i'm interested to know how people on here think child abuse allegations should be handled.
there's a few scenarios below, the first couple are easy then it gets a bit more complex.
NThanks Blondie and Mrs Flipper.
I was also thinking of this when I was working, the JW'S are a United States religion started here and headquartered here as Trey Bundy brings our in his report from December. Almost all Americans feel child rape is a crime, especially due to grassroots organizations as SNAP for shining a light on it.
I got to thinking what am I doing while I was working, getting upset as some person on a website who insults, belittles, swears, details, train wrecks with page after page after page of debates.
This person is so illiterate and uneducated that he/she has not heard of the broadcasting networks NPR and PBS. What am I doing? Why did this illiterate, uneducated person make me so upest that spends his time watching reruns of West Wing.
It's because this is such a serious crime. Child molesters destroy children, they do not die right away, they die a very, very slow death. Many are alcoholics go into drugs or prostitution. Their whole lives are destroyed.
For uneducated people to down play, debate, insult, swear and run page after page of their idea's, destory threads to the point that the topic that was started with is so lost. It's one thing when people have honest questions and want honest answers.
Landy and RO do not want that, they clearly have their own agenda and that's seems to me to be confessing the crime of child rape. For all we know they could be living and working at the JW headquarters in Patterson NY as WT attorneys.
I have to realize that there are many on my side, many on this board get it, that's why these threats run so long trying to reason with the unreasonable..
But mostly I have to realize that it's getting out. No matter what Landy and RO do and say they cannot stop the newspaper and tv ad's. They cannot stop Trey Bundy, NPR.
Thing's are changing and the WT is afraid, the elders in my hall are afraid of me as the CO told Why if I am some nut case as Landy calls me.. The reason why is they do not know when the next Candice Conto will come foreword and they have been clearly allowing child molesters with children.
I need to back away from getting upset because that's what thoes who support the WT want and then for me to lose hope that this will ever change, which if you go back and read Landy's post's is what he say's.
This is not going away. Trey Bundy is not going away. SNAP is not going away.
LITS
there's a lot of criticism surrounding the jw's handling of chiild abuse within their ranks with a lot of it being well deserved.
but i'm interested to know how people on here think child abuse allegations should be handled.
there's a few scenarios below, the first couple are easy then it gets a bit more complex.
Also what I just posted is the real world not Landy's made up hypothetical world.
there's a lot of criticism surrounding the jw's handling of chiild abuse within their ranks with a lot of it being well deserved.
but i'm interested to know how people on here think child abuse allegations should be handled.
there's a few scenarios below, the first couple are easy then it gets a bit more complex.
Also I find it interesting that in all of Landy'so examples he used men who were under the age of 18 when it happened expect for one.
In the real life in my congregation the child molesters were well over 18 when they raped the children who were between the ages of 5 to 8. Not the scenario that Landy presented in any of his examples.
In my congregation these men were encouraged to take care of children. One who was a sexual psychopath accordingly to his PUBLIC court records and had raped his bio 5 year old daughter and served 10 years in prison held a baby shower at the hall all with the elders blessing. By the way the elders refused to even look at much less take the public records. I talked to the police in my town and they were disgusted with the elders, one police officer said he would come and met with the elders but the elders refused.
Another child molester who raped a 8 year old child when he was a baptized JW age 40 + and served 8 year's in prison, than moved 300 miles away to my Hall so as to put his past hehind him, none of the elders told anyone of this man's past but instead allowed him to hold and take care of a mentally handicapped child alone, taking the child into the back room and outside alone. One elder told me he had to convince a foster mom that the child molester was indeed safe to be around children.
Funny Landy never mentioned any of those kinds of scenarios.
LITS
fyi from north-east england:.
http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/teesside-news/johovahs-witness-abused-girls-after-12538877.
jehovah's witness abused girls after luring them with video games, court told.
Again let's please not get into debates with RO and his buddy.
This is just too important of a subject to let him and his buddy down play.
This is such a horrible crime to let them derail it again. I just urge everyone to watch Trey Bundy's report on PBS, listen to reveal on NPR, and contact SNAP.
LITS